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August 11, 2010 # 10:12 pm # Armed Conflict, Education, Foreign Policy, Human Rights, International Law, International Organizations # 164 Comments
Alvaro Uribe
Georgetown University issued the following press release earlier today:
The former president of Colombia – Álvaro Uribe Vélez – has been named a Distinguished Scholar in the Practice of Global Leadership at Georgetown University, where he will teach students at the Walsh School of Foreign Service.
“We are looking forward to having President Uribe join our university community,” said Georgetown University President John J. DeGioia. “Having such a distinguished world leader at Georgetown will further the important work of students and faculty engaging important global issues.”
Beginning this fall, President Uribe will conduct seminars and other programmatic activities for students in the School of Foreign Service and the broader university community. He also will collaborate with members of the faculty to help foster conversations on important issues facing the international community.
“President Uribe will bring a truly unique perspective to discussions of global affairs at Georgetown,” said Carol Lancaster, dean of the Walsh School of Foreign Service. “We are thrilled that he has identified Georgetown as a place where he will share his knowledge and interface with Washington, and I know that our students at the School of Foreign Service will benefit greatly from his presence.”
“It is a great honor to participate in this prestigious Georgetown University program, sharing my experience with younger generations,” said Uribe. “My greatest wish and happiness is to contribute in the continuous emergence of future leaders.”
Uribe was elected as the president of Colombia in August 2002 and reelected for a second term in 2006. He has an extensive career in public service, beginning with his career in his home state of Antioquia, where he served as mayor of Medellín in 1982 and as a member of the city council from 1984 to 1986.
He eventually went on to serve as a senator (1986-1994) and governor (1995-1997) of Antioquia. During his time as governor, Uribe developed a model of community participation in key government decisions in areas such as job creation, education, public procurement and security.
Uribe joins other distinguished Georgetown faculty – including former Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright and former Spanish Prime Minister José María Aznar –who help students bridge the policy and academic worlds.
This is a great addition to the Georgetown community! We all look forward to interacting with him.
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I am a student at the law center and have worked extensively with the Colombian human rights community. While he was Governor of Antioquia, Alvaro Uribe was instrumental in the creation of the Convivirs, private self defense organizations that later morphed into the Colombian United Self Defense Forces, a paramilitary organization that has killed tens of thousands of Colombian civilians with the support of the Colombian state. As recently as 2006, the paramilitaries and the Colombian military ate together at the same military bases and carried out joint operations.
He routinely publicly denounced human rights defenders in his country, falsely claiming that they had ties to the guerrilla organizations in order to undermine their work. His party continues to work with illegal armed groups in the country, a situation which he, at a minimum, tolerated. He spied on opposition leaders and human rights defenders. His own DAS (similar to the FBI) passed hit lists to the paramilitaries containing names of trade unionists and human rights defenders, many of which were later killed.
http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2009/06/26/colombia-obama-should-press-uribe-rights-0
And now Georgetown has legitimated him and his legacy by making him a “Distinguished Scholar in the Practice of Global Leadership.” This is an offense to the thousands of victims of his administration, to the human rights community in the US and Colombia, and is an embarrassment to Georgetown University. This decision should be reconsidered.
Charity Ryerson
JD Candidate 2012
te escribo en español,pues debes dominarlo,ya que haces afirmaciones sobre una persona colombiana,estas segura de lo que dices??? recuerda,faltar a la palabra es ilegal en colombia y en USA,si te pido pruebas las tienes??con que derecho hablas asi de alguien a quien no conoces??te toco vivir en colombia antes que llegara uribe?? ojala que no!! muestra pruevas de lo que dices!!!
Narcolombia, una combinación de todas las formas de crimen.
Just because one is not Colombian, doesn’t mean one can’t have an opinion about human rights. If Sra. Obando said something about Bush or Obama, would I then say “oh you’re an immigrant, you have no right to say anything!” ??
Uribe is a killer. He made Colombia safe for the minority elite and the indifferent. Killings and disappearance continue. For him to come to GU and say that no one was killed or displaced under his administration is a lie, and he should be kicked out.
Any “academic” who supports his lies and murders should equally be barred from calling themselves an academic, since they are not interested in the truth.
Sra. Obando and her group of misspelling brain-washed locos need to get a grip and learn to deal with the truth.
Tambien les escribo en español, muchos de los mal llamados defensores de los derechos humanos que acusan a colombia de tantos crimenes no son más que titeres de las guerrillas colombianas, personas que no conocen la realidad Colombiana y que creen que con lo que les dice piedad cordoba u otro guerrillero es suficiente para dar una opinion sobre el país. Preguntele a los colombianos su opinion de uribe, se daran cuenta que mas d ela mitad de los colombianos lo apoyamos, los demas algunos estan mal informados por personas que odian a Uribe o son las mismas que lo odian. Quieren explicar un fenomeno como el paramilitarismo culpando a Uribe, una gran mentira, puesto que el paramilitarismo se origino mucho antes y fue la respuesta de los campesinos a los abusos de grupos guerrilleros y a la falta de proteccion por parte del estado. Uribe promovio la seguridad democratica y le volvio a dar a las fuerzas armadas el monopolio de la seguridad, desmonto a los paramilitares aunque algunos ante el lucrativo negocio de las drogas siguen delinquiendo, pero ahora claramente en colombia no hay paramilitarismo propiamente dicho, hay bandas criminales organizadas de narcotraficantes, los pseudo intelectuales que tanto critican a Uribe muy seguramente son consumidores de drogras, de la dañada sociedad norteamericana y son los reales culpables de muchas de las desgracias de Colombia, cuando ustedes controlen a su poblacion y dejen las drogas entonces tendran autoridad moral para hablar mal de nuestro pais. Uribe fue un gran presidente, que rescato al pais de los grupos al margen de la ley y que convirtio a colombia de un estado fallido a una democracia en constante mejora, tal vez cometio errores, pero es algo normal para los humanos, lo cierto es que Alvaro Uribe es el mejor presidente que ha tenido la nacion, y las criticas que tiene no son por mas que por acabar con las FARC y con los Paramilitares, por dañarle el negocio a los narcos y a los delincuentes.
No se obsesione defendiendo lo indefendible, ya sabemos que uribe es aliado de los paramilitares, y si quieres pruebas te las podemos dar. solo que para que te servirian? no eres ni fiscal ni juez, solo escribes para defender a un paramilitar que lleva a sus espaldas muchas masacres y ahora mucha corrupcion que debe pagar a la justicia y no estar dandoselas de inteligente. Ese es mas mula que usted y respete la opinion de los demas
Patricia aca tienes una prueba de lo que esta diciendo Charity. Here there is a probe from what Charity is saying. A declassified file from the National Security Archive.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB327/index.htm
And why? Because Mr Uribe supported every action of Mr. del Rio when Mr. Uribe was Governor of Antioquia.
Deseas mas pruebas.?
Primero, yo vivi en Colombia antes que llegara Uribe, El pais se fortalecio economicamente para una minoria, y se enpobrecio grandemente durante sus periodos como presidente. si toma el tiempo y mira las estadisticas vera los grandes atrasos que tuvo el pais durante los ultimos ocho anos.
Human rights were increasingly attacked while uribe was in power in Colombia, If you hve the opportunity to go to Colombia these days, You will see more Malls and better “name brands” and most Colombians thing that is progress, while poverty and unempliment have increased greatly. How can this person represent leadership?
Charity Ryerson, that’s not true!!
I’ve lived in Colombia (not only worked on Colombia) and President Uribe has been one of the greatest leaders Colombia has had.
When he arrived to Presidency, Colombia was almost a rogue State, “Paramilitars” on the North and guerrillas in the South had the control over the country.
After his 8-year Government, Colombia seems quite different. In the last World Bank Doing Business Report, Colombia was in the first place (even better than Brazil and Chile), the ILO removed Colombia from the list of the most violent countries against workers.
Furthermore, he sent to the US the most important “paramilitary” leaders. He also rescued Ingrid Betancourt and he has halted Hugo Chávez’s “socialist revolution” in Latin America.
I’m sorry Charity, but President Uribe is an extraordinary statesman. You should check not only NGO’s reports, but also the levels of trust and optimism that enjoys Colombia after his Government.
God bless President Uribe
“Colombia me sabe a mierda…”
You’re absolutely right, we’ll write more letters, do not let that tarnish the name of Alvaro Uribe
of course Colombia does well with the world bank. don’t you see the great business it is for the bankers there? a great leader brings a whole country up not just the few around him. sadly most Colombians believe he was great, but as Usual Colombia is grong. such a rich country should have its people living better than they live.
Charity, while I commend you on working with Colombian human rights groups , you have gotten only their side of things, I have lived in Colombia and have many Colombian friends, to the Colombian people Mr Uribe is a hero , when he took office the government controled only 10% of the country the remaining 90% in the hands of drug lords and a terroist group called the FARC, many of the things that Human rights group clamed on Mr Uribe were happening before he took office. While I am not happy that today after 45 years of internal armed conflict 3.2 million people are displaced, Colombia today is better then Colombia 2002. There is more to the story than told by Human Rights Groups but then they need to play to their base every year to raise money or shut down…….
Michael I am really interested in the Uribe dialogue and I am trying to set up an informal debate/online forum on his recent appointment to the SFS school at Georgetown. Up until now I have only heard fierce opposition to both his arrival in the US and his domestic policy in Columbia, and so it is refreshing to encounter a different viewpoint which is drawn from actual living experience. If it is not a hassle send me an e-mail to hh324@georgetown.edu as I would be gratefull to hear more of your insight on this issue.
devido a la problematica de vilencia que tenia la ciudad de medellin y la escaces de policias con los que contaba dicha ciudad se tomo la determinacionde formar estos grupos llamados convivir los cuales no eran armados y debido al mal manejo por parte de los politicos llamesen alcaldes, governadores, concejales y hasta presidenciales estos grupos terminaron en manos de las autodefensas que ya hacia mucho tiempo que esistian.con esto le quiero dejar en claro que la culpa no es de uribe sino del mal manejo que se le daba a las politicas en colombia antes de que uribe fuera presidente y cuando el tuvo la oportunidad de serlo cambio radicalmente la politica en este pais ahora que haya tanto comunista ofendido con el es cosa que alegra a todos los colombianos de bien….
Si no puede escribir en inglés, por lo menos aprenda a escribir en castellano. Uribismo y cultura no van de la mano.
jajaja, oiga hombre usted de donde se invento toda esa mentira, no hable cosas que lo hacen quedar como un defensor de oficio de un tipo que no tiene como defenderse. uribe armo al pueblo con las convivir y luego de la mano de estos grupos ya convertidos en paramilitares, usurpo el poder en 2002 y en 2006 se robo la presidencia con la yidispolitica. Mientras tanto las ordas paramilitares arrazaban a colombia y uribe viendose descubierto hizo acuerdo con ellos para enviar los jefes amigos suyos a usa a pagar por narcos y ahora las familias de los masacrados estan desamparados y clamando justicia. lo que usted debe hacer si es colombiano es entender que uribe delinquio todos estos años y que eso tiene castigo. no vea tanto rcn y caracol que lo hipnotizan mi querido defensor
El comunismo no existe tonto. solo los que han creido en Uribe creen que ya son mejores, por eso ese pais esta en tal atraso. I’m sad for the ignorant polarization of Colombia.
You clearly lack first hand knoledge of our situation in Colombia, in 2002 Colombia was on its way to becoming a “failed state”, rural areas had become almost unaccesable becausse of the strong terrorist precence, kidnappings, murders, undiscrimated use of landmines by the FARC had made our country one on the most dangerous places on earth, president Pastrana had tried to engage in conversations with the FARC, whos idealism has totally disappeared only to become the worlds largest and most brutal drug cartel; the tricked Colombians and only took advantage of the peace talks to increase its terrorismo capacity, and boost criminal actvity. Unemplyement rates bordered 20%, Colombia was totally unatractive for foreign capitals, after 8 years as president URIBE changed all that, he met the terrorist head on, took back vast areas of the country, witch had been a safeheaven for terrorist, broght back state presence and improved mos major economic indicators. The whole country owes mr.URIBE a debt of gratitud, and Georgetown is privileged to have him share his experience with students. it has become rather trendy to speak aganist Uribe y kind of fashionable, but I suggest you take a broader look, and get the full picture, not just biased ONG propaganda.
Narcolombianos ciegos y pronvincianos.
that are exactly news from oficial media as rcn and caracol channels besides other manipulated media in colombia. Don´t believe all colombian news that they are manipulated by goverment.
As a Colombian I was shocked by the news about Mr. Uribe being a professor at Georgetown. Unfortunately the facts and proofs demonstrating the participation of this individual in serious crimes are sheltered and hidden by a group of persons that could be publicly damaged by all these truths. However, some facts can not be hidden. For example, the prosecutions being held to his cousin, other congressmen from his party and members of his administration involving them with paramilitary groups. The videos of Mr. Uribe openly accusing human rights organizations, journalists and other persosns area available in youtube. In a country like Colombia these kind of statements put the lives of the involved at risk, showing a complete lack of interest (and responsibility). The fact that the guerrillas kill innocent people does not give the right to others to do so, or to the president to endorse this behavior. This is an unreasonable argument, and a sad proof of the blindness in which the majority of the Colombian population lives. All the players of this war involved in crimes should be punished, regardless of their ideology (left-right) or their position. By the way, I think you know more about the Colombian conflict than most Colombians.
Todas las organizaciones en el pais, justicia, ejecutivo, congreso, ONGs fueron durante años penetradas por los grupos terroristas en colombia, hoy día colombia logro reponerse de la pesadilla del terrorismo, y son los mismos terroristas ahora en saco y corbata los que acusan a Uribe de delitos, como venganza por devolver al país a los ciudadanos y al estado. Uribe no hizo mas que denunciar la penetración de los terroristas en diferentes organizaciones, y ese hecho esta mas que comprobado, mientras que las acusaciones contra uribe, están marcadas por presiones de la guerrilla y muchas mentiras creadas por los mismos terroristas, se la pongo fácil a todos, pregunten cada cuanto había una pesca milagrosa (secuestros masivos de ciudadanos inocentes por parte de la guerrilla) antes de Uribe y pregunte cuantas hay después de el, pregunten cuantos pueblos se tomaron y destruyeron antes de uribe y pregunten que paso después, esa es la verdad con hechos.
Ignorance and stupidity continue to be the common denominator in human interactions. It is rampant even in academic quarters!
How does anyone who’s never lived in Colombia, to have a better picture of what the country was like then, before Uribe’s tenure, and now–after his successful administration, dares judging the man who presided over a government that brought peace and order in that country, and ensured the more auspicious circumstance, both political and financial, enjoyed by Colombians in many, many years?
I was born in Colombia, and precisely due to the crudeness of the violence, rampant corruption in the political establishment, insecurity in towns or the country side alike, indifference and cynicism of many, even their complaisance with lawlessness, plus the ill-gotten sympathy professed by some with the Robin Hood style of both drug-trafficking guerrillas and other criminal bands, my parents decided to take me and my siblings out of there, while in our early teens, through a pilgrimage that took us first to Venezuela and then in time here to this United States. In summary, I had never a chance to grow in and contribute to the country in which I was born.
The latter alone should qualify as an atrocious crime–specially for those adept to taking their ridiculous, spurious left-leaning claims on human rights violations to any fora willing to hear their rants and ravings–same who now cry afoul when Uribe, a responsible, courageous politician with fortitude, vision and decisiveness to dismount the macabre and criminal schemes of criminal syndicates there, comes, as an academic guest-lecturer, to Georgetown.
I grew up poor but never ignorant as to the cause of my/our forced exile; and for the better never bitter, resentful about my apparent poverty–or murderously envious about the abundance of others. In the end that poverty became the very engine that propelled, me and my siblings, to a better state in life.
Colombia’s violent past gave that country easily over 350,000 deaths in a period of some 60 years. All that bloodshed is finally letting up, and more opportunities for financial and educational prosperity are there for Colombians to enjoy. If for that alone, Uribe’s storied accomplishments need to be heard.
Sorry and pitifully ignorant is the state of those who, having been born and lived in prosperity here in the US, arrogate themselves the authority to determine, in their leftist, lilliputian and resentful views, how humanity needs to be rid of their perceived wrongs or apparent injustices.
Long Live Colombia–The New
REALLY !!!!! Frank
Ignorance and stupidity continue to be the common denominator in human interactions. It is rampant even in academic quarters!
you are an living example of your affirmation, it`s easy to understand that your opinions are induced and shaped by mass media, other thing, now, with the technology, you can know all about a country without be necessary to live in that country, or to know about a topic around the world.
You also have reason about “precisely due to the crudeness of the violence, rampant corruption in the political establishment, insecurity in towns or the country side alike, indifference and cynicism of many, even their complaisance with lawlessness”, but the problem is (and I am sure you don`t know) that before 1990 the insecurity, displacements, massacres and deaths are much less and they happened less often, the massacres was of 6, 8, 10, or 15 deaths, from 1990 and furtherly from 2002, they increase in quantity, number of deaths and frequency, reaching the staggering figure of 300,000 killed by the paramilitaries and 3,000,000 people displaced by the exiles of their property without compensation and with the approval of military and government.
the stadistics say that poverty is less now, but it`s because the Uribe government give a charity help to each pauper family of about US$50 (if they have two childrens);
the coverage in education increase from 1990, and much from 2.002, but the secondary school graduates don`t know the four elementary arithmetic operatios, neither who is the president of USA, etc.
Uribe called the paramilitaries to surrender their weapons by giving them impunity and do not think that was his own initiative, it was an order of his dad Bush because the paramilitaries are out of hand and became drug producers and dealers.
And so on señor Frank.
do not sit in front of the tv to swallow whole, see the statistics of Colombia and especially the of all the world about everything that shows the state of humanity as a whole, don`t think that the American dream is achievable everywhere, and not even can be achieved for the vast majority in the U.S, you should feel as an immigrant.
listen to me, I am not partisan, communist or supporter of the guerrillas.
Que usted sea estudiante afortunado de Leyes en esa prestigiosa universidad, no significa que usted sepa lo que pasa en Colombia. Una cosa es escuchar a los famosos de las organizaciones de Derechos Humanos y otra cosa vivirlas. Usted habla muy pero muy mal de el Expresidente Alvaro Uribe lo cual esta totalmente errado, GRACIAS A el hoy podemos los colombianos salir de nuestras casas, disfrutar de la compania de amigos y familiares si pensar que nos van a secuestrar los narcoterroristas asesinos, extorsionistas, ladrones, de las farc/eln, usted como muchos creen en todas las mentiras que hablan y escriben los de estos grupos que si son de las farc/eln. Como Colombiana que quiero la paz en mi pais aporto cada dia un grano de arena trabajando honestamente y no pidiendo ayudas a los extranjeros que creen colaboran por la paz de mi pais, usted como muchos estan haciendo dano a mi Colombia querida, los Colombianos elegimos durante dos periodos al Senor Uribe por sus capacidades de sacar a Colombia del profundo hueco que se encontraba, y logro muchas cosas, el no es Dios para hacer todo en dos periodos por eso elegimos al Senor Santos, como su sucesor, y estamos seguros que mucho de lo empezado por el expresidente Uribe es un buen legado para continuar. Asi que aunque usted ewstudie leyes no sabe todo, y es un honor como Colombiana apoyar al presidente Uribe ahora y siempre. Ppor que mejor no se preocupa por averiguar lo que hacen los asesinos de las farc/eln, terroristas, a usted ni a ninguno de su familia o amgios lo han secuestrado, extorsionado,mutilado, estafado, fisica y mentalmente asi que usted NO SABE NADA. Bendiciones para el Senor ALVARO URIBE
patricia, no siga usted hablando mierda que ya ese cuento de salir tranquilos por la gestion de uribe no se lo creemos ni a usted ni a los medios. en el fonde de su corazon, sabe que uribe tiene a sus espaldas crimenes de lesa humanidad. si no lo sabe entonces tampoco ha vivido en colombia o se hace la gue-vona.
parece que aprendio bien a repetir lo que todos dicen pero antes de este senor tambien se podia salir con el mismo riezgo, aun se mata, se desaparece se secuestra y se atacan los derechos humanos. si apaga las soup operas y deja de ver los noticieros de ellos mismos aprendera a no repetir
ESTOY ESPERANDO TU RESPUESTA!!COMO TE ATREVEZ A HABLAR ASI DE URIBE!!!TE DIGO DE NUEVO DEBES HABLAR ESPAÑOL,PARA ESCRIBIR TANTA BASURA!!!POR LO QUE DICES QUE ESTAS AL TANTO DE COLOMBIA!!!GRINGA!!!
parece que usted lo que no sabe es ingles y se da gusto aca escribiendo el poco español que sabes. No te esfuerces que un americano no se va a desgastar discutiendo contigo, solo opinan y le dan pruebas a quien deben. coje oficio, si es que tienes que hacer
This is just ridiculous, It’s so easy for people that has absolutely no idea about the country to criticize.
What Alvaro Uribe did for Colombia was the greatest gift a nation can ask for, the situation of “union workers” most of which are affiliated to the guerrillas (and only want to see the United States destroyed) actually was much better during the period of Uribe than it was ever before, if there’s people in this institution that seek to make a difference in this world I recommend you to learn about the matters that you are going to discuss before engaging in irresponsible affirmations, It’s quite interesting that someone have enough lack of information to write that Uribe only benefit a small “Elite” of Colombia and is still the most popular president in the history of the country if you can call a small elite more than 75% of the population of a country I guess you must be very confused.
Que man tan bruto, no sabe de lo que esta hablando y se las pica de intelectual! Primero preguntele a la gente que si ha experimentado los progresos de Colombia bajo la administración Uribe y luego hable, bruto!
this is a message send to Mr. Udall, US Senator:
Greetings, Senator Udall, I hope to be aware of developments relating to para-politics and drug trafficking in Colombia.
Today, in a surprising news a former director of prosecutions: Guillermo Valencia Cossio, brother of former Interior Minister Fabio Valencia Cossio was implied by the United States government with narco-trafficking business.
It is also surprising and disturbing that the United States has taken so long to involve a senior government official earlier this crime, while in Colombia, more than six years ago the paramilitaries have publicly boasted to have more than 30% of Congress Republic in its favor because they have influenced and pressured people to elect them, news that was “common knowledge” throughout the country.
Honorable Senator, let me suggest you become leader of one campaign for this fact not be an isolated case, but that just be the first of a series of thorough investigations, and subsequent charges by your government of all previous colombian government officials that are being investigated, indicted or tried in Colombia for ties to paramilitaries, drug trafficking and violation of Human Rights, even the request for extradition of those involved.
You can be sure that all well Colombians be grateful with you.
Keep up the good job. Many colombians are gullable and believe that getting rid of guerrilla has been the most successful achievement of former president uribe.
but Colombia is not only the largest and medium cities. The other Colombia suffers to see death, peasants that are tortured and killed by paramilitares joining with army and business groups to take over their land. People in colombia from large cities, medium cities were charmed by this person.
they clap clap and congratulate him and only see the best achievement: “getting rid” of guerrilla. but what these people not see or are blind to see is what it was done in the Other Colombia. Colombians lost social conscience.
I agree with C. Ryerson. Do you find academically interesting a president responsible of killing thousands of young and poor Colombians and then accusing them of being guerrilla fighters who died in combat?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8038399.stm
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB266/index.htm
Uribe’s DAS scandal turned Watergate into a children game:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/08/04/spying-scandal-touches-alvaro-uribes-inner-circle-colombian-president-set-leave/
http://colombiareports.com/colombia-news/news/10323-us-report-das-scandal-worse-than-watergate.html
For eight years, Uribe co-governed with politicians supported by narcos and ultra right wing paramilitaries:
http://www.semana.com/noticias-nacion/mafia-creo-nuevo-pais/143352.aspx
What is the rationale here? Because he is a former president from an exotic country he’s not an enemy of democracy and human rights but a courageous leader?
I hope that Georgetown University’s academic community will act according to high academic standards, reversing this decision. Otherwise, who will be the next ‘Distinguished Scholar in the Practice of Global Leadership’ at Georgetown? Omar al-Bashir? Silvio Berlusconi?
estas seguro de lo que dices???miles de personas pobres y jovenes asesinados por orden de uribe??? y que tal te parecen las muertes de nuestros soldado y campesinos en manos de las FARC????TE ESCRIBO EN ESPAÑOL,PUES TIENES QUE HABLARLO PARA AFIRMAR TODO LO QUE DICES!!!si,COLOMBIA ES UN EXOTICO PAIS!!! TU ESTABAS ACA HACE 10 AÑOS??? IMAGINATELO COMO ERA….VENEZUELA 100 VECES MAS!!! LOS GUERRILLEROS QUE SON???AMIGOS??? QUEMAN A NUESTRO PUEBLO,SECUESTRAN POR UN MERCADO,VIOLAN,MATAN,ACRIBILLAN……!!! RESPETA LAS COSAS Y A LAS PERSONAS!!TE INVITO A MI CASA CUANDO QUIERAS Y TE DARAS CUENTA QUE ES COLOMBIA QUE ES MEDELLIN DESPUES DE ALVARO URIBE!!! TEN EL VALOR DE CONTESTARME!!TIENES PRUEVAS DE LO QUE DICES?? EN COLOMBIA Y EN USA LO QUE TU DICES SIN PRUEVAS ES DELITO,TRAICION A LA PATRIA Y FALTA A LA VERDAD!!!
Mientras más conozco a los narcolombianos, más quiero a mi perro.
como se nota que lo único que te importa es poder ir a tu finca los fines de semana, pues te informo que fuera de tu casa hay un pueblo que ha sido desplazado, masacrado, descuartizado y que no ha tenido quien lo defienda de narcos, guerrilleros, paramilitares y lo peor políticos que hacen juego a los anteriores delincuentes todos ellos auspiciados por el “gran” gobierno de Estados Unidos con su plan Colombia (dineros con los que se mantiene la corrupción)
quisiera saber que dirías si fueras la madre de un joven que fue asesinado por el gobierno de Alvaro Uribe, UN JOVEN CUYO PECADO ES SER POBRE, ¿sabes que es un falso positivo?, cuando vayas en tu carro mira en el semáforo que hay alguien que no ha comido y seguramente algún día tubo un Hogar como tu
EDUARDO, DEJE DE SER TAN IGNORANTE Y TAN PETULANTE AL REFERIRSE A COLOMBIA, RESPETE Y DEJE DE DECIR BABOSADAS, A LO MEJOR ES UN PUTO COCAINOMANO, QUE NI SABE LO QUE ESCRIBE…
EDUARDO!!!!!ERES UNA MIERDA DE COLOMBIANO RESENTIDO!!!!!QUEDATE EN TU “PAIS” DE ILIGAL Y LAVANDO PLATOS!!!NO TIENES ARGUMENTOS PARA NADA!!!
mientras mas estudio en usa, mas me rio de las estupideces de patricia. das lastima o a veces risa. se te nota la ignorancia. Responda en el idioma que le hablen y no quede como una inepta.
¡Cómo les arde a los narcolombianos burribestias que les digan la verdad! Narcolombia no es más que una gran fosa común.
Carlos, Mt Uribe did not apporove of false postives in fact he ordered an investigation into the killings, I number of Military leaders were fired as a result of the scandal. Were the last 8 years perfect in Colombia no, but Mr Uribe is not the demon the far left likes to try and make him out to be, after all for 8 years he had approve ratings in the 70 to 80 % and is considered a hero in his country by the people. Colombia today is a safer country today thanks to him. Investment into Colombia continues today thanks to that security which gives Colombia a brighter futrue then 8 years ago.
En colombia es el unico lugar delmundo donde y cuando quiebra una companya, la culpa es la de los tintos. La culpa nunca recae sobre el gerente. jajajaja
This letter was sent to Mr. Degiogia, President of the Georgetown UNiversity by the Colombian journalist Fernando Garavito:
“Santa Fe, NM, 20 August, 2010
Mister
JOHN J. DEGIOIA
President Georgetown University
Washington D.C.
Dear Sir,
News press realize that Mr Álvaro Uribe, President of Colombia, dictate classes in Walsh school for foreign services University of the autumn. The data has numerous ethical implications that I don’t know if you have been assessed sufficiently by Georgetown University.
Mr Uribe was President of Colombia for eight years. During these two fronts of public activity entered a critical period: first, the administrative corruption; the second, the systematic infringement of the rights of the opposition and human rights.
I am not an enemy of Mr Uribe. I am, quite simply, a Colombian who was concerned that education about what is a “global leadership” in one of the most prestigious educational in the world, fall into hands who has exercised a perverse leadership. Currently my daughter Manuela started his university studies in this country. She wants to participate in public life in the United States, a nation that has opened with generosity the doors that Mr Uribe and his regime closed in Colombia. If for some reason she had come to Georgetown, and one of his teachers was Mr Uribe I not hesitate a single time request the withdrawal of that institution.
I would not, needless to say, to establish any kind of censorship against him. On the contrary, I think that it is the obligation of accountability on its facts, which many people in my country qualify as “crimes”. But this accountability should give it a Court of justice. Colombia now prepares a car head of process against him, which shall be addressed to the International Criminal Court. I think that until you cannot decide their legal status, it cannot be in front of a chair where any kind of statement is provided to whom he himself called “future leaders”.
I’d love to discuss with Mr Uribe on some of these issues to the University community. I am ready to move me to Washington when you consider that the debate can occur. Students have a right to know who they are and represent what can teach those who will be their teachers. My life is negligible front that may show Mr Uribe. I am, quite simply, one of whom he and the regime prevailing in Colombia, condemned to silence journalists.
I think that one of the tasks facing the University policies defend the community to their care. The appointment of Mr Uribe as master of Georgetown is a danger to the ethics training students.
Cordially,
Fernando Garavito”
señor yo no vivo en mexico ni lo conosco hace 39 años vivo en colombia y con la edad que tengo puedo decir que despues de conocer al presidente uribe medi cuenta que en colombia no sabiamos que era un presidente hasta que el llego a ese puesto el es el mejor y seguira siendo el mejor porque el si quiere este pais y lo conoce de la guajira al amazonas ……
Narcolombia, la fosa común más grande del mundo.
EDUARDO!!!HABLA CON ARGUMENTOS!!NO DERRAMES TUS RESENTIMIENTOS!!!!
jorge, no pase por tonto, sabe lo que es una masacre paramilitar? sabe lo que es el ataque al pueblo con el recorte de horas extras? sabe que hacen las familias dueñas de las tierras que robó uribe y los paramilitares? sabe cual es el delito de las chuzadas? sabe quienes llevaron al poder a uribe a punta de amenazas? Señor si eso no es ser delincuante entonces le puedo entender que usted esta idiotizado.
Usted tiene razon. Andres Pastrana dejo el pais vuelto #$% dandole autonomia a las far. no hay que dudarlo.
Uribe lo hizo? si…. se podia viajar o se puede viajar mas tranquilo.
Pero por queno miras la otra cara de Colombia? no te alcanza la vista?
Uribe se atrevio inclusive a decir que los indigenas UWA eran auxiliaodres de la guerrilla.. Que encontro el gobierno en correos del mono jojoy? que ellos este grupo guerrillero habian organizado la matanza de los UWA.
Uribe maltrato a los campesinos de la region de choco y alto choco diciendo que eran auxiliadores de la guerrilla… que eran? un pueblo resistente a no dejar ni que ola guerrilla o paramilitares los sacaran de sus tierras. Que paso mas adelante? matanzas por parte de paramilitares unidos con politicos de estos campesinos que lo unico que tienen es tierra.
Entonces, porque puedo salir de la casa a mi finca sin temor de que la guerrilla me secuestre, voy a festejar las otras barbaries cometidas por el gobierno? Si eso es ser colombiano me averguenzo de serlo.
Ja jaja, en Colombia los periodista pueden escribir lo que les de la gana, asi que no entiendo su queja y mucho menos las causas que lo llevan escribir esta carta
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Mr. Uribe will take this opportunity to try to clear his image of hard right wing politician and use the professor credentials in order to try to appear as an intellectual and academic and not as the criminal that many civil organizations, journalists and human rights activists claim that he is.
Sadly, is not only one accusation pending against him but many that incriminate him in crimes against humanity like the actions of paramilitary and the military against “comunidad de paz of san jose de apartado” which is known as the children massacre (a baby of 18 months, his 5 yo sister and another kid of 11 yo where murdered and dismembered. Mr Uribe was a president at the moment and instead of ordering an investigation used the media to attack the community and mock the victims. his actions and omissions are well documented and it was announced by a pool of lawyers that he was going to be suit at the International penal court for crimes against humanity.
Sadly for Georgetown it seems that by association a prestigious school is condoning the actions of a man that has a very difficult past to explain (very close to pablo escobar) and that many consider a criminal. Still i use to believe that in order to teach in the USA a profesor needed to have a PHD but even that is not necessary for Mr. Uribe that might have lots to explain but not so much to teach
TE ESCRIBO EN ESPAÑOL,PUES PARA HABLAR DE MI PAIS Y MI PRESIDENTE,LO DEBES HABLAR,LEER y ENTENDER!!! CONTESTAME…CUANTOS BEBES A MATADO LA GUERRILLA EN ESTE PAIS???CUANTAS MUJERES EMBARAZADAS????CUANTOS NIÑOS???CUANTOS SOLDADOS???NUESTRO EJERCITO SE ENTREGA EN ALMA Y CORAZON PARA DEFENDERNOS!!! ENTONSES A BUSH QUE??? LO VAN A CONDENAR A LA SILLA ELECTRICA POR TODOS LOS MUERTOS EN IRAK???? TIENES PRUEVAS DE TODO LO QUE DICES??HAS VIVIDO EN COLOMBIA??TE HAN SECUESTRADO??? ES MUY FACIL HABLAR DESDE LEJOS TE INVITO A MI CASA,TE MOSTRARE UNA BELLA CIUDAD,NO HAY INDIOS NI FLECHAS NI ASECINOS EN LA CALLE!!! A URIBE LE DEBEMOS LA PAZ QUE ESTAMOS LOGRANDO.PERO LOS GUERRILLEROS QUE SON PARA TI??? HEROES????
se nota que eres una desempleada en colombia o una ilegal en usa y que de cualquier forma causas lastima. te escribo para aconsejarte que no sigas haciendo el ridiculo.
Don’t let gossip and misinformation guide your opinion or criticism. Learn the facts before you talk or judge anyone, give yourself the opportunity to know Mr. Alvaro Uribe Velez, and make a smart judgment for yourself not for what you hear in the media, or from others.
Dear Charity, as a law student you should know that judgment should not be based on unproven facts, even if they are possible or even highly probable. The above particular allegations against former colombian president Alvaro Uribe has not been proven true. Therefore you are merely speculating. Additionally, I am Colombian myself. I lived in Colombia during Uribe’s presidency. I voted for him. I can only speak based on my own experiences and not influenced by anyone else’s view. In my opinion, Mr. Alvaro Uribe has been a great leader and the best president Colombia has had during the last decades. I am also applying to law school for fall 2011, and I look forward to take a class with him.
How did Uribe combated the guerrilla? Simply by letting the militaries secure the zone so that the paramilitaries applied (by swapping out the peasants), a scorched earth estrategy, then without supplies (previously provided or extracted from the peasants by the guerillas) the guerilla had to move away. This policy although fruitful, led to at least (the counting is there) 150.000 executions and the numbers are surely higher. This is a trivial fact, the morality of this is another thing. Now, if you fervorously say that these are all lies, that this is ought to be proven in trial, etc, etc, then good luck applying for school, because you are nuts: all facts in history are trivialities never proven under a court because a court, obviously is another instrument of law. In which world do you think we live? The care-bears land?
LUZ!!!!!POR FIN UNA COLOMBIANA HABLANDO!!! TU SABES LO QUE ES URIBE!!TENGO LAGRIMAS EN LOS OJOS DE RABIA E IMPOTENCIA!!ESTA GENTE QUE NO SABE LO QUE LA GUERRILLA NOS HACE ME TIENEN INDIGNADA!!NO LES ESCRIBO EN INGLES POR QUE SI SE ATREVEN A HABLAR ASI DE URIBE,TIENEN QUE HABLARLO!!! YO LES PIDO PRUEVAS DE LO QUE DICEN!!!QUE TRISTEZA,EL MALTRATO A MI PRESIDENTE!!SIGUE ADELANTE!!AYUDANOS DESDE ALLA,COMENTANDO EN ESTOS DEBATES,DEFIENDELO POR FAVORRR!!!! UN ABRAZO GRANDE!!!
huyyyy, sigues causando lastima. deja que digan lo que las personas sienten, acaso te has visto afectada con los abusos de uribe en el poder? parece que no. pero el simple hecho de ser colombiana es tu peor castigo. sigue defendiendo a uribe y cuando este tras las rejas vas y le besas los pies porque ni siquiera te dio la oportunidad en el pais de aprender ingles.
Si estas en Colombia, por que no viajas a las regiones remotas de Colombia? habla con los desplazados de las diferentes regiones. San jose de Apartado por ejemplo… haz ese trabajo y sacas tus conclusiones.
it has actually been proven many times and with overwhelming evidence, for ex by petro in the senate… but of course everyone just ignored it if they just didn’t hear about it. if you lived there i can tell that your view is not as free and spontaneuos as you think my dear luz… “a great leader and the best president Colombia has had during the last decades”. that sounds familiar… of course it does! it was repeated by government’s propagnda machine over and over until people just believed it because it was the only thing that one could hear, that and government’s version of everyting that happened in colombia ‘giving opposition all garanties’ cause people was so brainwashed that they just wouldn’t believe the truth even if it was proven with facts. So “the above particular allegations against former colombian president Alvaro Uribe” has actually been proven true. Therefore you are merely ignoring facts and basing your judgement on ur experience as a privileged member of colombian’s elite. perfect! that is the logic colombian government needs! ure hired! so enjoy your class with alvarito while santos finally makes colombia a place where colombian PEOPLE has no place so you can come back to the country and find a place in any corrupt insitution. say hi to him 4 me!
Kol, this has got to be one of the most ignorant comments I have ever read. God have mercy on your soul.
as a law student you should know that judgment should not be based on unproven facts, even if they are possible or even highly probable. The above particular allegations against former colombian president Alvaro Uribe has not been proven true. Therefore you are merely speculating. Additionally, I am Colombian myself. I lived in Colombia during Uribe’s presidency. I voted for him. I can only speak based on my own experiences and not influenced by anyone else’s view. In my opinion, Mr. Alvaro Uribe has been a great leader and the best president Colombia has had during the last decades. I am also applying to law school for fall 2011, and I look forward to take a class with him.
Luz thanks for posting the other side of the story which sadly the far left has been pushing in the US media for sometime with the help of one Colombian Senator Piedad Cordoba.
Unfortunately millions of Colombians justify crimes and assassinations the same way millions of Germans supported Hitler. Uribe is nothing but a reflection of a widespread Colombian culture of crime, violence and drug trafficking.
how dare you compare Alvaro Uribe hither?? more KILLER is your president bush none! lives in Colombia and you can talk about sad and mad !!!you are a stupid “GRINGO”
I’m Colombian and i really can say that he has been the best president in the colombian history, everyone makes mistakes and he is not an exception, is very important live in Colombia for talk about who he is and waht he did and the reasons why he is the president most beloved by Colombians
ok?
Charity Ryerson neglected to mention that she’s a former coordinator of USLEAP, the radical anti-Colombia arm of the AFL-CIO, whose agenda opposes all free trade permanently. She’s also done jail time as a School of the Americas vandal.
Here are a couple of important details she didn’t bring up. There are four pro-free trade unions in Colombia. If that isn’t dramatic enough, two of them have have their leaders murdered by FARC terrorists for speaking out in favor of jobs and free trade in the last three years. Like Ryerson, FARC is very much opposed to free trade – and they will try to stop it by any means necessary. So much for Ryerson’s claim that President Uribe somehow falsely linked so-called human rights workers and unions to terrorists – those links are perfectly real. La lucha continua.
FARC is often aligned to Colombia’s two big labor confederations, which like their allies in AFL-CIO, also oppose free trade. They oppose privatization or anything that can create something Ryerson would condemn as ‘corporate.’ FARC chieftain Raul Reyes was a union organizer by trade and his girlfriend was also a union organizer before she was arrested for terrorism. Last year, the Colombian army picked up yet another vaunted Colombian union organizer/human rights activist inside a FARC camp who later claimed he’d been kidnapped – except that his ‘kidnappers’ neglected to take his cellphone from him, a standard FARC practice for kidnap operations. The links between FARC and the unions are very gamy indeed.
But just as objectionable are the canards. Unions love to say that Colombia is ‘the most dangerous country in the world for trade unionists.’ Fact-check: The State Department, in its human rights report released this year reported that a union member is six times safer than an ordinary citizen at large. Second, Venezuela is now the country with the highest number of union murders, a fact that bothers their brother unions in the states not in the slightest.
The slanders and smears against President Uribe are the desperate words of a fanatic unable to sell anyone on the ideas. By taking on terrorists and making his country safe, President Uribe made his country a much better place than he found it. He rejected appeasement, refused to slurp up to Human Rights Watch (whose Americas chief had a personal grudge against him), and paid attention to the people. The foremost of all human rights is the right to personal security. That’s something Charity Ryerson and HRW will never understand, but ordinary Colombians understand perfectly. That’s why Uribe exited his office with an 80% approval rating, something that’s very painful for the radical left to accept.
Safer? For who?
Uribe has left a massive paramilitary infrastructure behind him that will continue to murder anyone that opposes it and sell cocaine to fund itself.
The FARC is violent, but the paramilitaries are far more so.
Neither is acceptable. No murder is acceptable. When the state funds violence, it is even less acceptable, however, than when rogue armed groups perpetrate violence.
This isn’t about free trade or fair trade, it’s about state-sponsored violence against dissidents with no alliance to the FARC.
Check out http://uribe-georgetown.org for more facts on Uribe.
He was fighting a Colombian Civil War… Are you ignorant of those facts? I feel like jeremy wants to debate for the sake of debating. Typical of someone that read the new York times and feels like an expert.
POR FIN!!!! LES ESTOY ESCRIBIENDO EN ESPAÑOL,POR QUE PARA HABLAR DE URIBE ASI,LO TIENEN QUE HABLAR,LEER Y ESCRIBIR!!YO TAMBIEN LES PIDO PRUEBAS; Y LA GUERRILLA QUE?? SE LES OLVIDA MENCIONARLA???CUANTOS ASESINATOS COMETEN DIA A DIA??? AYUDANOS A SEGUIR DEFENDIENDO A URIBE!!UN ABRAZO!!!
La guerrilla también es otro gran problema de Colombia, pero porque la gente de Colombia tiene que estar en medio de esta guerra, las minas quiebrapatas y las motosierras de los paras o es que tu crees que los paramilitares se acabaron con la llegada de Uribe.
Mira lo que dejo Uribe un país de pobres sin salud y sin empleo, llena de multinacionales ricas de nuestros recursos, seguro tu no vives en Colombia.
deja de pedir que defiendan a ese paramilitar que solo dejo muerte y corrupcion en colombia. ya das es rabia, parece que uribe te pagara por escribir tanta estupidez. me imagino que te da 20 dolares por cada comentario. aterriza y concientizate que el crimen no paga. Si sigues escribiendo tanto babosada, te seguire saboteando y haciendote quedar como una tonta
I am a Colombian citizen and I am here to let you know that not all Colombians are ok with Alvaro Uribe. This person devastated the rule of law in the country and replace it with something he called ‘the rule of opinion’ to change the dogmatic constitutionality of the country so he can over stay in office. In fact he was re-elected as Colombian President by way of paying bribes to two Colombian congresspersons (Yidis Medina and Teodolindo Avendaño) in order to let his re-election bill passed. The Colombian Supreme Court acknowledged this crime and asked the Colombian Constitutional Court to analyse Uribe’s re-election legitimacy. Justice Rodrigo Escobar Gil was also paid out and via his ruling legitimised Alvaro Uribe’s de facto Government and destroyed the rule of law in Colombia.
Alvaro Uribe is not just the direct responsible of nearly 5 millions of Colombian displaced, genoside, murder, but the destruction of the rule of law in my country.
I found it revolting that such a serious and prestigious university of yours will allow a criminal to enter a room full of students in order to teach them how to kill, rape and murder millions with complete impunity.
Please if you go to any of his lectures, ask him why PABLO ESCOBAR’s cousin a guy called OBDULIO GAVIARIA was his main adviser in his 8 years as President and his relationship with the Medellin Cartel.
Ask him if after 8 years in office and 5 million displaced people in the country, he still consider his ‘Democratic Policy’ to be a success.
Also ask him about his responsibility in the Carepa Massacre, when in 2002 he accused the community of San José de Apartado and padre Javier Giraldo of guerrilla aiders. After this accusation, 20 people of San José de Apartado and padre Javier Giraldo were brutally murder by paramilitary troops.
Ask him why he as President systematically was attacking the independence of the judicature, in special why he and his family sued two Supreme Court Justices.
Finally someone ask him, why 80 members of Congress, supporters of his Government and his re-election are now under criminal investigation by the Colombian Supreme Court for paramilitary links with drug lords and paramilitaries.
yes friend, you´re right you know exactly about this criminal colombian president. I pray he pay his crimes some day.
And also dont forget to ask him why did he give permissions to Pablo Escobar to use the airports runways to take drugs out of colombia? ALvaro uribe was the CEO of civil aeronautic of Colombia and during this time he, as a politic quote of Alberto Santofimio another crap of the mafia was doing favours to Escobar.
but Colombia is blind.
No me imagino a un presidente de los EUA, maltratando la constitucion legitimamente establecida para adecuarse a propositos meramente personales. Hitler llego al poder con apoyo popular, Uribe lo mismo, ya se sabe el camino que siguio el primero; gracias a Dios y a la Corte Suprema de Justicia de Colombia, no tuvimos los colombianos que saber los que nos habria pasado. En 8 años de Uribe, Colombia llego a ser el segundo pais en numero de desplazados, otra reeleccion y habriamos llegado a ser el primero. Aumento la brecha entre clases sociales, distribuyo el ingreso a favor de los mas ricos (ver Agro Ingreso Seguro). Dios bendiga a la Universidad y aprenda lo que no contribuye al mejoramiento de humanidad. Odio no es lo que necesitamos, necesitamos es amor y compasion por los que no tienen lo que nosotros crremos vale la pena. Dios nos bendiga.
I’m also colombian and I don’t agree with the false accusations against Álvaro Uribe.
During his 8 years in office, we made the biggest advances in a lot of areas. The poverty rate was in 55% in 2002 whereas today is in 45%. Clearly it is still very hig, but the improvement is undeniable. Not many countries can say that they have reduced poverty as fast as we did. In the last 8 years, over 3 million colombians got out of poverty thanks to Uribe’s politics (our country has a population of 45 million people).
The kidnapping went down from 2882 cases in 2002 to 213 in 2009.
Human rights have never been as protected as they are today. In 2010, for the first time in 25 years, the International Labour Organization recognized the improvements in the protection of trade-union members and didn’t include Colombia in their list of countries who fail to protect trade-union members’ human rights.
The indigenous populations, who have been traditionally targeted and menaced, are safer and freer than they have ever been. The protection of their territories is guaranteed by the military forces, and guerrillas, paramilitaries and drug dealers no longer target them thanks to the security provided by Uribe’s government.
It is common in some far-left NGO’s to attack Uribe’s legacy linking him to human right violations and other crimes. Nothing more distant from the true. He was elected, reelectad and left office with a popularity of 82%, not because of crimes he allegedly comited, but because he gave us a country safer and freer than ever.
I vigourosly encourage you not to believe what people says to promote their ideologically biased agenda, and instead do the reaserch on your own, so you can shape your thinking independently.
Uribe is a great adquisition to Georgetown, and if you have the possibility yo go to his lectures, I strongly advice you to do so, in order to confirm or deny what you may have thought about him.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/12/opinion/12sat1.html
you´re ignorant. live in colombia and you see how colmbia was left for uribe. poor, an corruption in each institution.
It´s very sad to see how this university wants to legitimate someone like Uribe Vélez, all the people of his party in the congress has trouble with justice for paramilitarism, most of them with crimes against humanity, the conecction to Uribe are there. And every day something else is known, like the way they follow the supreme court (on his orders) and a lot of oposition people, with the security sistem of the state.
He is a shame to the people in Colombia who believes in Human rights, and it´s a shame you pleased yourself to have him as a teacher there.
Mr. Alvaro Uribe, perhaps he has been the best president of Colombia in the whole history.
Many facts and figures prove this statement.
However, I don’t understand why Mr. Mark N Lance (Professor, Assoc Dir, Grad Studies) and all his followers are trying to avoid that the former president of Colombia teach students at the Walsh School of Foreign Service.
Easily is recognizable that any judgement should not be based on unproven facts.
In fact, Go ahead Mr. Uribe and Mr. John, proceed without hesitation… the majority of the Georgetown University Students are looking forward for our classes.
because the facts and his criminal past don´t hide and the true is showed always.
I am a Colombian who has been living in Colombia before and after Uribe President, and I can say with my experience that Colombia is a new and better Country after Alvaro Uribe Velez. I am very proud of my expresident Alvaro Uribe. He has been the best president of Colombia and the history will know it. In Colombia the only people, groups and parties (Polo Democratico and Partido Verde) that are not agree with Uribe’s politics are the enemies of the Democracy and the Peace in my Country. Those people are friends of the socialism, Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro, terrorism, narcotrafic and guerrillas like Farc and Eln. Everybody in latinamerica and the world know this. I just ask to the people that never have been in Colombia don’t listen those groups and to the colombians who do not love our Country and the Democracy I want to tell them that they are dangerous people not Alvaro Uribe.
I am shamed by uribe´s crimes. I don´t understand why you´re proud, he is a criminal as nazis. read the uribe´s past and you know
It is funny to see how some people such as Ms. Charity and Mr. Carlos, can look up a few links on their computer and regurgitate information that is not consistent with the image of a Colombian hero. What the people above fail to remember is that before President Uribe, Colombia was a nation that was in absolute disarray. La FARC and other guerrilla groups were running a nation with fear. Kidnappings and deaths were all too common. Drug trafficking was running center stage through the Colombian blood and it seemed to have no near end. Colombia at this time was just another struggling “exotic” nation, pushed around by its domestic problems. Throughout President Uribe’s term in office, it is difficult to argue that he was perfect. However, for the last four years, President Uribe has restored the dignity of the Colombian people, has helped return national pride and has,once again, made Colombia a safe place to live. President Uribe is an excellent diplomatic leader, who kept in check belligerent leaders such as Chavez, who have indeed supported the guerrilla groups in Colombia, and Ecuadorian President Rafael Correa.
From what it seems Ms. Charity does not pay too much attention to the news, and therefore it is causing ignorance. I know it is impossible to have a perfect leader, but President Uribe’s character and leadership have been well awarded by making him a “Distinguished Scholar in the Practice of Global Leadership”. It is a BENEFIT to the Georgetown University students to learn from such an exemplary leader. Feel free to disagree, it’ll only show how wrong you are.
We can now feel safe in the highways. But the majority of us don’t have money to travel.
That was Alvaro Uribe Velez Goberment. We’re safe in the roads, but not in the cities.
I’m lucky to have survived this goverment. I’m glad I wasn’t a “Falso positivo” =/
I am a colombian. I am 48 years old and have lived here and in The States. I have seen many colombian presidents come and go. Never had I seen someone like Alvaro Uribe Velez. He brought Colombia from being a non viable country to a place where you can certainly live better than in most places. Those of you who based their judgement on information provided by groups who opposed the hard crack down of Uribe´s on their farc palas, should come come here and talk to those of us who have lived through the positive changes Alvaro Uribe brought to this country.Talk to real colombians who love their country and you might even learn something.
you are an ignorant man. I understand you because you don´t live in colombia unemployed and scared for a possible positive false.
ese paisa arriero de pedagogia y didactica no sabe sino arriar bestias y recuas en su finca del uberrimo y de la guacharaca. en colombia con sus flasos positivos y con sus paramilitares desaparecio a miles de colombianos.
I think you don´t know what was live in Colombia before and after Uribe, you don´t know how the security was in this country before that, you didn´t live the kidnapping, the murders and the terrorism in your face. Uribe is an human, he has mistakes, but he has been the president who had courage to confront the war problem my country has lived. Please everyone is so hard, but most of colombians are grateful with Uribe, he is a very smart, intelligent and educated person with a big experience in foreign relations, if we could have a teacher like him will be great.
No more.
don´t write “mierda” colombia was, is and will be a dangerous contry because of the 70% of poor people and the goverment corruption
Dear sirs:
You really committed a big mistake naming Alvaro Uribe as a Distinguished Scholar in the Practice of Leadership.
You can not be so naive.
Having done that is like appointing a vampire as manager of a blood bank.
Thousands of his victims and their families will be disapointed.
Best regards and God help you
THANKS I’m from Colombia and live in this country because before the president Uribe start his goverment we need lose my country.
By now Colombia is a Hope country, the people live better, vith security, and can move around the country,
Colombia change, now is better thanks a Uribe president and his goverment,
Anyway some people don’t like because prefer the Drugs, and Guerrilla that is the same FARC,
Please make analysis before and after the uribe government.
I,my famili and millions of colombian people say thanks Uribe president.
Excuse me my bat english but with colombian woman i need explaine for any people the important for Colombia this President, and we vote for the Santos presidente because Uribe aprobbal this candidate.
I strongly agree with Luz. I am Colombian, and since Mr. Uribe took office there was always an interest from the opposition to downplay his achievements, based on completely unproven facts. If any of those claims that have been made for 8 years already had any provable value, I don’t think he would have even made it to the plane once Mr. Santos succeeded him. Instead, he is in Georgetown and will be working with the UN soon. That should mean something.
Dear American students of Georgetown University. I have been always surprised at the ignorance of many American Students in regards to how they think live is in other countries. Again I confirmed that ignorance when I read the comments of some of the students about this article.
The terrorists who killed 3000 people on Sep 11, 2001 are the same kind of terrorists that killed, kidnapped, murdered, extortionated many Colombians before 2002. Colombians could not drive from one city to another for fear to be kidnapped on the road by the same kind of terrorists who wants to kill Americans all over the world.
President Uribe was elected by 62% of Colombian voters on 2002 when he promised during his campaign to go after the terrorists who had Colombia under siege. He was also re-elected four (4) years later by 69% of Colombian voters who were very satisfied with the results of his administration. Let me remain you that President Uribe is the only Colombian who has been re-elected to office. Colombians were so positively satisfied with him and the results of his administration that they voted to change the constitution and make re-election possible to re-elect President Uribe.
President Uribe political adversaries were so disgusted at the success and excellent results of Mr. Uribe that they tried by all means to attack him. All kind of stories were made about him and all kind of accusations were made to his administration.
None of the accusations made to him by his adversaries were ever proved. Those never proved accusations showed the vast majority of Colombians the bad intentions of his adversaries.
The only way to know the way of live in other countries is to go and visit those countries. I would like these Americans students to go and stay one week in Colombia and see how beautiful Colombia is. When you visit Colombia please ask Colombians their opinion about President Uribe. These students will realized how more than 76% of Colombians love President Uribe and live in a better Colombia than the one prior to 2002.
Colombians Love President Uribe the same way Americans love President Kennedy or President Reagan.
Agustin Aljure
West Palm Beach, Florida
I would like to know a president of colombia who never has had an error.
Why don’t you look for the work the others colombia’s presidents have done?
I don’t think the people protesting truly understand the situation Colombia lived for the last 40 years. It is very simple for people to criticize a circumstance when they are strangers and completely ignorant about it. Uribe did not massacre thousands of Colombians. Uribe did not murder union leaders and journalists. Uribe did not incinerate 14 courageous policemen last week. Uribe did not displace 3 million people. Uribe did not set bombs in the cities and towns of Colombia. If you want to blame and protest against somebody for all those atrocities, then do it against the FARC and the AUC. Uribe did fight against all of the atrocities above, he gained control of the country again, he increased foreign investment, developed the economy and brought financial prosperity to the people, he fought the FARC and reduced them by about 12,000 men and he accomplished the full demobilization of the paramilitaries. If any of you who oppose Uribe think that you have the capacity to do the greatness and goodness that Mr. Uribe did for more than 40 million Colombians then please tell me. Uribe is indeed one of the greatest presidents Colombia has had and a leader whose accomplishments should meet worldwide prestige. Do you understand that he turned an almost failed state into a productive nation? However, he is neither a saint nor the perfect man; I doubt you will encounter a person with those altruist qualities, and regardless of the legally unproven scandals and speculations surrounding Uribe, whether true or false and which shadow the majority of politicians, he is and will be a political legacy in Colombia, and IF you are an intelligent being you should be proud to have such a gifted leader around in your campus from whom you can learn a lot.
I know Colombia quite well. It is a criminal nation and Uribe is the quintaessential Narcolombian.
Señor Saenz, argumente, muestre inteligencia, discuta con altura y respeto. Sus comentarios en esta página solo son insultos, no aportan a la discusión. Unicamente está aportanto mas violencia, esa misma violencia que tanto critica.
Unfortunately millions of Colombians justify crimes and assassinations the same way millions of Germans supported Hitler. Uribe is nothing but a reflection of a widespread Colombian culture of crime, violence and drug trafficking. Narcolombia is crime, and the statistics prove it.
I live in Texas and I’m planning to travel to Washington because i want to go to a conference. He has been the best president in Colombian History. He had 82% of popularity by the final of his office, and like someone already said people should not judge somebody with unproved facts. It would be a honor to me to be in Georgetown and have the opportunity of seeing Álvaro Uribe Vélez
Speaking of “82″; Uribe was identified by U.S. intelligence as No. 82 y the Medellín Cartel 1n 1991.
Well, its funny how people like Charity, Carlos, Fernando Garavito and Albert Schwartz think they have the right to judge Colombian ex-president Alvaro Uribe. Just let me tell you who is our ex-president Alvaro Uribe Velez in Colombia:
1.Mr. Alvaro Uribe Velez worked for our Country for 8 years, the best 8 years in Colombian history.
2.He freed our country from the guerrilla, which had took over the Colombian territory by killing innocent people, kidnapping Colombian citizens, Americas, and anyone, burying antipersonal mines killing innocent children, recruiting man and women against their will to become members of the guerrilla. Ex-president Alvaro Uribe Velez worked without rest to give Colombians the freedom to travel from city to city, from town to town without fear of the guerrilla Farc and Eln, which are terrorists.
3.Mr. Alvaro Uribe Velez has not fear to confront terrorist like the Farc and Eln, or confront Chavez, and Correa, who became allies of the guerrilla, and were protecting them in Venezuela and Ecuador.
4.Those “falsos positivos” for which Dr. Alvaro Uribe V. is being accused, are nothing but a set up from Chavez, Correa and Piedad Cordoba. Unfortunately in our countries people sale their souls for money, and even so, Alvaro Uribe V. was the Colombian president when this “supposedly to happen”, 75% of Colombian citizens know that this was not done by our ex-president. It’s not right, and its sad that some “military members” could do something like that, but that’s a theory, because that could be done by the guerrilla, or by someone else trying to bemire the good name of our president and our Country.
5.Our ex-president Alvaro Uribe V. is a great leader, and it should be a privilege to have the opportunity to assist to his cathedra, and learn from him as a person, a professional and a leader.
6.75% of Colombian citizens wanted to re-elect Alvaro Uribe V. as our president for the third time, and that’s because we believe on him, we trust him, we know that he is honest, and the best leader and president our Country ever had.
7.Thanks to Alvaro Uribe V. the image of our country around the world had changed significantly , attracting international investment, and opening new doors to Colombian Industries.
Please, do not judge our ex-president based on gossip without any real foundation, and give yourselves the opportunity to learn from him, and to learn how other countries lived, and how they sometimes have to survive terrorism for over 50 years.
In Colombia, we are very proud of our ex-president Alvaro Uribe V., and we are very grateful for all his hard work. He though us how to love and live in harmony in our country, he empower us to fight for our rights, and defend our country from terrorism, and narco-guerrillas that the only thing they want is to take over our Country and destroy the future of our children with help of some of our neighbors hiding under the Socialism of the Twenty First Century .
Thank you Alvaro Uribe Velez, thank you for everything you’ve done for our Country Colombia, and you will always have our support.
Narcolombia, una combinación de todas las formas de crimen.
Se exalta por el trabajo hecho de liberarnos de la guerrilla… buen trabajo hecho.
y lo otro que? la gente no tiene mas vista para analizar las atrocidades hechas durante el gobierno entre apoyo de paramilitares y ejercito. anyadiendo lo del DAS.
Pero a mi que me importa, con tal de que nos deshagamos de la guerrilla, me importa si hay falsos positivos.. ojala acaben con todos los pobresde colombia, que acaben con los campesinos para asi yo tener algun acceso a esas tierritas y producir palma africana.
Ojala uribe hubiera desaparecido mas gente pobre…. le falto mas tiempo para hacerlo.
ESCRIBO EN ESPAÑOL,POR QUE PERSONAS QUE HABLAN ASI DE UN PRESIDENTE COLOMBIANO,TIENEN QUE HABLARLO,LEERLO y ESCRIBIRLO!!!
para muchas personas alvaro uribe es un asesino…pero ninguno habla de lo que las guerrillas le hacen a nuestro pueblo!!secuestra,matan,queman cadaveres de nuestros soldados,colocan carrosbomba,matando inocentes,cierran carretera ,pueblos enteros…
todo esto apoyado por los gobiernos de izquierda!como hugo chavez,rafael moreno,evo morales,iran,china del norte….todos enemigos de la democracia!!
PREGUNTENDE PRIMERO QUIENES SON LOS ASESINOS,LOS TERRORISTA,LOS QUE TIENEN SED DE GUERRA Y DESPUES…HABLEN DE URIBE!!!
No hay gente más provinciana, derechista, violenta y acomplejada que los narcolombianos.
soy colombiano y con dolor en el alma tengo que decir que estoy de acuerdo con eduardo. Cualquier pais tiene mas progreso y cultura comparado con colombia. uribe en sus 8 nefastos años le enseñó al pueblo que delinquir paga y que las leyes valen poco si de defender intereses se trata. Cuando uno lee tanta idiotez de la gente que defiende a uribe no sabe si sentir tristeza o risa, por su ignorancia. Estoy seguro que estas personas escriben solo porque ven rcn y caracol cuyos intereses estan en decir que uribe fue bueno y ocultarle sus crimenes. Si ya saben lo del watergate (chuzadas) de uribe, espero que estos hinchas ciegos de uribe, sepan que estan defendiendo a un futuro presidiario con crimenes atroces a sus espaldas. Patricia ya empezaste a despertar? o deseas seguir de idio-ta
Hi every one. I from colombia. I belive in president Uribbe deeply. The image that the international mass media have given of president Uribe, is not truthful. It is not paramilitary nor a another similar thing. The Colombians are satisfied with its government and his profits. We admired Dr Uribe. Please, peopleo of US,the developed country, the intelillent people don’t follow up the mass media. Because these erroneous arguments do damage to my people.
Uribe is not a “Dr.” He is a corrupt politiquero.
Mr. Uribe, has proven that “tough love” can be used to change a country. And yes, many may say that innocents have died, but remember that for the benefit for the greater good, some things have to be given up, and for a country as Colombia, where the ongoing war has made us live in fear, kept us from traveling throughout our beautiful country or kept us from believing in something different,drastic measures needed to be taken in order to overcome the past.
As a Colombian, I am very proud to have Mr. Uribe teaching this fall at Georgetown, and as a George Mason student I am jealous that only you guys are able to hear his speeches, but I wish him the best and I hope that the students from this great institution take what he as to say with an open mind, and take advantage of this opportunity.
Colombia is full of criminals. Millions of them. That’s why they like Uribe.
Im a student of Universidad de Los Andes and i consider myself as a follower of the president alvaro uribe for several reasons, but the main is give to colombian people hope for a better future. How can i contact him??? sombedy knows his email addres, or something?. Thaks. Daniel Morales, Bogotá, Colombia.
You can write him:
Mr. Alvaro Uribe.
c/o U.S. Bureau of Federal Prisons
uribe el mejor el unico presidente por siempre en el corazon de los colombianos
Los colombianos no tienen corazón sino motosierra.
ALVARO URIBE VELEZ,HAS BEEN OUR BEST PRESIDENT IN THE COLOMBIAN HISTORY, OUR COUNTRY HAS CHANGED THANKS TO HIS POLITICAL KNOWLEGE!!
IF YOU´RE GIVING OR SUPPORTING BAD COMMENTS AGAING HIM IS BECAUSE YOU´RE AN IGNORANT, OR MAYBE YOUR WILL BE BETTER WITH THE TERRORIST,
OPEN YOUR EYES!!
ARE YOU AN USEFUL IDIET?
FOR WHOM ARE YOU WORKING?
BE HONEST AND ALL WORLD GET BETTER!
FOR A BETTER WORLD, WE NEED TO OPEN OUR MINDS AND BE HONEST!!
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!
I’m Colombian orchestra conductor and journalist, I’m sixteen and spend my life travel for the whole world, I has been worked with Lina Moreno presidents Uribe wife, William Ospina and Gabriel Garcia Marquez and another public personalities from Colombia, actually I’m working with Venezuelan maestro Jose Antonio Abreu, one of the most important cultural leaders in Latinoamerica.
As Colombian I’m so happy with the decision of the University to have our last president in their campus, equal as happy when Gabo wins the Nobel or William Ospina win the Romulo Gallegos.
I think that democracy it’s just ear the other the other people and the other opinion, the university make a space which us the Colombians never can do it, every time he was going to a space like this, groups of ignorant anarchy with nothing to said, sabotage it, so Bravo.
But I have another thing to said, the information and the cathedra must be public, because you’re talking in international terms, about our country and very interest links to our self.
People like Fernando Garavito doesn’t understand nothing about nobility, its notably a person who ask for an invitation at the same time when send a critic, if we are talking about a good speakers who can represent the Colombians in an international discussion they are people as Carlos Gaviria Dias, Jose Fernando Isaza…but not a men polarized like Fernando Garavito.
Bravo again to the University, I hope that the students who have this opportunity understand that things which president Uribe going to said it’s just a point of view, but it’s one of the most important point of view, whole truth I don’t know maybe he didn’t know but a good bite of truth I’m sure.
Thanks. Diego
I´m Colombian too, my english is not the best but I just read the discussion and is very shameful that people of other countries have more information about our ex-president that ourselves. Mr. Uribe manipulates the colombian media (tv news and newspapers) eight years so people like the ones who comment above were deceived. In Colombia is very usual to hear people saying that Uribe has been the best president in colombian history, but that`s so subjective, because they never know about the ilegal practices he used to be re-elected (in Colombia before uribe, re-election was inconstitutional), about spying journalists, opposition politicians, court members and off course all the human rights violations that anyone knows about because according to the Colombian media, Uribe is the best president ever. Again… what a shame. Thanks to the people in Georgetown who worries about Colombian victims more than some colombians did.
Georgetown should be ashamed of inviting Mr. Uribe as a lecturer. His government has been accused of multiple human rights violations and crimes. He persecuted the Supreme Court justices as well. His government has also been indicted for corruption. Uribe had the Colombian Constitution changed so he could be reelected. Shame on you!!!
Eduardo Sáenz Rovner, Ph.D.
Sadly, I find here comments written for people who claims to know what happens in my country. As I read it I must say: YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT. You don’t know our fear, our sadness, our victims, anything… and now you say Alvaro Uribe was guilty of that??? We’ve been leaving in war during 60 years and Uribe was the only president who could ever do something to give us back some of the freedom that guerrillas and narcos took away. Studying a country from the comfortables classrooms in the States must be very pleasant but it doesn’t give you nearly the third part of the knowledge to judge such a great lider in that wrong way.
I agree with Charity Ryerson and am wondering if Georgetown is even listening.
Well, a lot has happened here since I last checked. Camilla, please refrain from personal attacks. At least for my part, this is not about politics, it is about human rights. Uribe effectively slandered the human rights movement sufficiently in Colombia to both make them targets for the military and paramilitary, but also to generate the views of the NGO community seen in this discussion. I think that is unfortunate.
I know that facts are not going to change this debate. The evidence against Uribe is overwhelming (please see Amnesty, HRW, UNHCHR in Colombia, WOLA, LAWG, etc. reports), but that doesn’t matter. Uribe’s supporters do not trust human rights organizations, so we may be at am impasse. If we trust no facts, we can know nothing but our own experiences. While my own experiences in Colombia support my allegations, I will not try to convince you with anecdotes.
Maybe this is a battle over a narrative. Was Uribe the valient leader who fought off the FARC and made his country safe? Or was he the brutal leader who persecuted his critics and took advantage of a civil war for his own purposes? There is some truth in both statements. But even if you adhere fully to the first, you are not served and Colombia is not served by revictimizing the innocent people who were killed and exiled by Uribe. By trying to make them invisible and deny their existence, you only undermine Colombia’s ability to heal.
And if I cannot speak about Uribe’s human rights record because I am not Colombian, Uribe never should have been brought into a university in the United States. Period.
Uribe is a criminal. Plain and simple!
Several million Colombians voted for Uribe just like several million people voted for Hitler. Conclusion: there were millions of nazis in Germany in 1933, and there are millions of criminal rightwingers and drug traffickers in Colombia nowadays.
Since “The Exorcist” there has not been somebody as evil in Georgetown until General Uribe arrived.
Soy Antropólogo colombiano y es increíble como halagan a ALVARO URIBE VELEZ justificando el crecimiento económico en Colombia gracias a políticas de exterminio y desplazamiento de campesinos, indígenas, y comunidades negras.
como ejemplo esta la multinacional CHIQUITA-BRANS siguiente enlace
http://www.eltiempo.com/colombia/justicia/chiquita-brands-revelo-los-nombres-de-sus-ejecutivos-comprometidos-con-pagos-a-paras-en-colombia_5088347-1
hay cientos por no decir miles de acusaciones contra el estado Colombiano por abusos contra los defensores de derechos humanos y contra la población civil, un ejemplo de ello los FALSOS POSITIVOS, donde agentes del gobierno pagaban 300 mil pesos colombianos, A DELINCUENTES POR ENGAÑAR JÓVENES POBRES DE ZONAS MARGINALES, ENGAÑANDOLES CON PROMESAS DE TRABAJO y que luego aparecerían como guerrilleros muertos, solo por aparentar eficacia en la política del gobierno llamada “SEGURIDAD DEMOCRÁTICA”, te recomiendo los siguientes enlaces en ingles y en español.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOOfXTkk_E8 En español
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DyZcFsl_nQ&feature=related
en ingles
y les podría dar miles de noticias donde se ven las políticas criminales del Gobierno de Alvaro Uribe
mi correo es soneromayor357@gmail.com
Pero aun Asi, los colombianos tienen una venda en los ojos.
Es que era tanto el temor a viajar, por los r3etenes de la guerrilla, no lo olvido siendo varias veces retenida por la guerrilla..
Si Uribe no estuviera metido con paramilitares, si exterminios no hubieran sucedido en la Otra Colombia, desplazamiento de campesinos solo por accion paramilitar, persecucion criminal a defensores de derechos humanos. Si esto no hubera sucedido en la era de uribe, por supuesto que hubiera sido el mejor presidente de colombia.
Vote por el, pero no estoy obsesionada por su trabajo.
Los defesnores de Uribe tienen el mismo dicho:
“tiene pruebas en contra de Uribe?”
las pruebas no las tiene el ciudadano comun y corriente, pero por que no hablan con los afectados de la otra Colombia?
Como vivimos en las grandes y pequenas ciudadades, todo se ve bien y bonito.
Los que hablan mal del Presidente Alravo Uribe Velez, primero no saben de lo que hablan. O no han vivido en Colombia antes de Uribe y despues de Uribe o son amigos de la guerrilla, que ha sido la mas sanguinaria y perversa de cualquier grupo terrorista que ha existido en toda America.
O tambien son el colmo de la gente mas desagradecida con un hombre que ha entregado todo para que Colombia salga de tantos problemas y de la condena internacional.
Si al propio Jesucristo lo asesino su propia gente desagradecida, que se puede espera de la malvada naturaleza humana? con un valeroso hombre y aunque les pese la envidia: EL MEJOR PRESIDENTE QUE HA TENIDO COLOMBIA!
Deberias visitar por ejemplo, la comunidad de paz de San Jose de Apartado. para que vieras como uribe trato a los campesinos de defensores de la guerrilla, solo porque ellos se afianzaron en no dejar meter a su territorio paramilitares ni guerrilla. Cuantos paramilitares mataron a los campesinos de San Jose de apartado?
Ah pero claro, como son campesinos a los cuales uribe los tildo de guerrilleros, claro que los acaben a todos.. ojala los paramilitares en union con militares acabaran de una vez por todas con la pobreza de camepsinos en colombial. ojala los acabaran a todos.
Mr Anthony Clark Arend probably i will have the chance to meet you and explain you the situation. I am from Colombia and i have to tell you that what Uribe did as a President said more to us the colombias that what he did as a Governor of Antioquia. We are human beings, we make mistakes. Uribe show us in his performance as a president that we can trust and believe again, that there is hope for Colombia and that guerrillas are no invincible and that we will finish with them. Unfortunately I am not living in Colombia right now, I am In China but we owe to him (our ex president)a lot, I am 28years old and as much as I recall this is the best president in the Colombian history. Hopeful you will get the opportunity to meet him, he is a great human been, with warm-hearted, intelligent and great strategist. For sure Georgetown students we will receive a river of knowledge they will have a great experience. I will love to have that opportunity.
Was my real pleasure
Monica Rojas
Me pregunto si tu eres paramilitar?
te lo pregunto porque el que este en contra del gobierno de Uribe entonces es guerrillero.
Pregunta.. todo el que apoye a uribe es paramilitar?
Pues claro que no…. pero si te puedo decir que es mires la otra Colombia…mire lo que sucedio con los indigenas uwa y otros campesinos a los cuales uribe los llamo guerrilleros.
Si los narcolombianos proparacos no les gusta lo que escribo, me pueden hacer torturar y “desaparecer”. Así lo han hecho durante décadas.
The same irresponsible leftist world-crowd that has allowed for Colombia and so many other communities to endure terror and death now opposes one of the few world leaders that has stood strong against the idea of letting his people die at the hands of selfish cowards.
The fact that some “intellectuals” at Georgetown stand united against Uribe is not surprising. They have been out of touch with reality for a long time. Having embrased their pharisaic approach, these “elite” has little interest in the well being of others. Let them tear their garments at the idea of having Uribe teach he truth at a so-called Catholic institution. Let them pay their respects to Jojoy’s remains and visit with Piedad Cordoba. Let them see first hand what colombians have accomplished thanks to Uribe. It will be safe for them to travel to Colombia…it’s always been safe for them to travel there bacause their pupils have been running the war.
Eduardo Saenz, su mentalidad es tan pequeña como la de los guerrilleros que día a día hacen sufrir a Colombia. A usted no le puedo pedir que cambie de parecer porque como a ellos, le queda grande pensar que hay un Dios mas grande que Tirofijo. Pero como sea, asi sera siempre para Colombia, seguir luchando contra la violencia interna y contra los que quieren hundirla desde afuera. Creo que no es su culpa y no debe ser tan mala persona, porque me imagino que tiene familia que lo quiere. Es solo que a veces las personas reciben una educacion no adecuada que puede alterar la percepcion de lo bueno y lo malo y se convierten en guerrilleros o cosas peores. Asi que bueno siga despotricando de Colombia y de su gente maravillosa que igual nosotros rezaremos por su alma…
Jairo. A Narcolombia nadie la quiere hundir “desde afuera”. En el panorama internacional, Narcolombia no es más que un país violento, corrupto, productor de cocaína y exportador de sicarios. Narcolombia se hunde solita, con el peso de millones de ignorantes y fanáticos.
¿Resentimiento? Patricia Obando, please stop being so silly. I know Narcolombia quite well. It is a very violent and corrupt society, so it does not surprise me that Narcolombians chose Uribe Vélez as the person who best represents their culture of corruption, violence and drug trafficking.
Uribe is the best president that Colombia has ever had and possible one of the greatest leaders ever. During much of his presidency he had an amazing approval rating that at times was surpassed 90%.
He turned a country that was in basically in shambles where people feared for their safety and in just 8 years turned it into safe and stable country where people have hope for the future. Even abroad people are taking notice, and people who would never thought of visiting Colombia have come to see its beautiful landscapes and rich cultural heritage.
People often criticize Uribe because he has ties to corrupted politicians but they don’t understand that for much for the 1990’s corrupt politicians is all that Colombia had. It was impossible to be involved in politics in Colombia without knowing or having worked with somebody who wasn’t completely clean. Uribe has actually tried to address this issue and that is why so many corrupt politicians around him have been exposed. It may look bad for him but at least he worked to try to clean up the system. I applaud him for sacrificing his image for the good of the country!
Human rights groups love to criticize Uribe. What they don’t understand is the before he became president, all of Colombia was a giant human rights issue! It had extremely high murder rate, kidnapping rate, poverty rate, and those are just a few of the rates that are documented. He has made huge improvements on these issues!
Lastly, I’m sure there have there been a few mistakes a long th but Colombians or people who personally saw the pre and post Uribe Colombia will tell you that he is an amazing president.
Hola,
Que lastima Eduardo Sáenz Rovner leer sus líneas, yo solo sé que cada quien será juzgado por la justicia divina, y lo siento por usted pero sufrirá dolor eterno por el veneno que trae en su “corazón”. Pero no se preocupe todo llega a su debido tiempo.
Alias Leandro habla de la “justicia divina”. ¿Quiere decir la justicia paramilitar representada por la banda de “Los Doce Apóstoles”, comandada por Santiago?
Comparto Carta Pública presentada el pasado 3 de agosto en la Presidencia de la República a nombre AUV y que como Derecho de Petición está sin respuesta.
CARTA PUBLICA
A: ÁLVARO URIBE VÉLEZ
DERECHO DE PETICIÓN
Bogotá, agosto 3 de 2.010
Doctor:
ÁLVARO URIBE VÉLEZ
Presidencia de la República
Ciudad.
Referencia cartas:
1. Octubre de 2.002
2. mayo 21 de 2.006
3. noviembre 22 de 2.007
Interpreto que durante los últimos 8 años grupos familiares dejaron resuelta su situación económica, logrando para una generación la atención a su jubilación y la siguiente gozo de seguridad laboral. Yo hago parte de los 22 millones de pobres, que usted irresponsablemente apaleo permanentemente, en su intolerante fanatismo por el accionar militar; donde se esfuman los recursos, del trabajo y de los emprendimientos y demás formas que respaldan el progreso de los derechos civiles, los derechos humanos, el crecimiento y la estabilidad de las gentes, sus familias y los pueblos.
Creo en ese ingreso, como garantía de solución a un mejor convivir, lo demás son promesas de futuro que quizás nunca será realizado o para cuando todos estemos muertos.
Un ejemplo, Corea del Sur hace 50 años tenia un ingreso per cápita de 150 US, Colombia 325 US, hoy 27.169 US y 8.870 US respectivamente. País del tercer mundo en conflicto y con escasez de recursos naturales, Fue una decisión de gobernante que le apunto a conseguir una fuerza de trabajo con un alto nivel de formación, para ayudar a explicar ese gran salto.
Usted, politicastro, perdido de la brújula de los estadistas; ocho años para señalar como la mayor industria generadora de empleo, la creación de una red de un millón de informantes. Un tipo de sicariato que a cambio de un precio, afloja los nudos éticos y morales por operativos de delación, que en lo militar desenfreno en los “falsos positivos” y en las denominadas “chuzadas”.
Por el incumplimiento de su deber constitucional, de otorgar total equilibrio a todos los sectores sociales en alcanzar su propio desarrollo y, en lo personal al daño infinito causado, en adelante lo recordare con el alias de “zascandil”.
JORGE TITO MOSQUERA CAMPO
CC No 14977509 de Cali.
Teléfono 316 6566581
jcampus01@hotmail.com
CC:
Doctor Juan Manuel Santos
Presidente Electo
Doctor Angelino Garzón
Vicepresidente Electo
Excelentísimos señores Embajadores países acreditados en Colombia.
Organismos Internacionales de Derechos Humanos.
Organismos nacionales de Protección Social.
Medios de prensa.
Opinión publica.